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Fish Died. Cloudy, smelly water... [message #8865] Wed, 27 February 2008 09:46 Go to next message
S281Saleen160  is currently offline S281Saleen160  
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Hi. I'm new to the site and need some help. I have a 125g tank, fresh water with different cichlids in it. I initally had about 30 small fish in there, they were all happy and doing fine.

I purchased 4 coral sea fans and put them into the tank, and did a 20% water change. Due to my error, the water i put in was too cold and the fish died, some of them. Now, my tank is very cloudy, I have faomy like bubbles on top of the water, and a few fish are still sick (not moving, breathing heavy, and white-mikly eyes). I did another 15% water change, raised the temp to 81deg and cleaned my filters and added some of the water clear stuff. but the problem is still there, and fish are still sick/dying.

anyone have an idea what it could be? could it be the sea fans? I do have about 60 or 70lbs of other coral i got from puerto rico, and those never affected my tank at all.

any help is greatly appreciate!
Re: Fish Died. Cloudy, smelly water... [message #8866] Wed, 27 February 2008 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just a few questions and then I will be able to help you better.

How long did you have the tank running from it's initial water input? Is the filter original from time of setting the tank up? If so, how long?

I am assuming the sea fans were dead before putting them in freshwater? Meaning, you didn't take them from salt water and then put them right into freshwater? Another words, did they die in the freshwater? I don't know a lot about salt water creatures, but I do know that these fans do feed and need salt water.

Are you able to make a chemical check on your water for ammonia, nitrites, and nitrates? If so, please take a reading and record your values. Also on the pH if you can.


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Re: Fish Died. Cloudy, smelly water... [message #8867] Wed, 27 February 2008 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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thanks for the quick reply.

the tank was running for 1 month before i added the new fish.
all was fine for 1 month after i added the new fish, now this problem. the tank is not brand new, its been up and running for two years. its that i traded my other fish in, and wanted to start over with baby fish.

my tank has crushed coral on the bottom. i also have about 60lbs of dead brain coral i got off ebay. a few pieces of petrified wood and some other type of rock. the sea fans i got from ebay are also dead. i have 3 of the big aqua clear filters running. for two years, my tank has been fine. every told me that i could NOT add dead coral to a fresh water tank. but i did, my fish thrived, made babies..and i always had crystal clear water. never had PH worries, because of the coral.

so far, i have spent a fortune on the cichlids, half have died since i did that water change and added those fans. i want to save the rest. most of them seem to be doing fine now, they are swimming, chasing each other, eating etc. its just a few that still are getting sick.
Re: Fish Died. Cloudy, smelly water... [message #8868] Wed, 27 February 2008 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sorry. most of the fish are doing ok, i think. its the cloudy water, and those foamy bubbles on the surface that wont go away.

and of course the few sick fish that remain.
Re: Fish Died. Cloudy, smelly water... [message #8869] Wed, 27 February 2008 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Believe it or not, I am going through the same exact thing myself right now. I am in the mist of tearing down my 125 because of a disease that seems to have come with a few new iceblue zebras I bought last week. Some are covered with ick and some have this slimy stuff on them I can't quite put my finger on. Two have died and the rest I isolated in a hospital tank and I am treating with ick meds which I have been doing for a few days but now I am treating with a sulfa product. I don't like antibiotics because they kill the biosphere. Sulfa wont. So this is what my plans are. I am disinfecting everything in my tank, plants, rocks, and what ever else I have in there. None of my other fish seem to have a problem with this slime stuff so I am going to take my chances and wait before I start treating with sulfa. I am still in the process of treating for ick though. So I plan on two more days of that, then another water change.

I suggest you take out what ever you didn't have in the tank before your fish started getting sick. As far as live coral goes in a freshwater tank, here is my own opinion, if something dies in your freshwater tank, it is bound to put off some sort of waste. This may not be true in coral but common sense says something else. If you put live coral in your freshwater tank, it is going to die. I do not understand why someone would tell you to put live coral in a freshwater tank where it will die. But then again, I don't know everything, just go with common sense.

I would take out any other stuff like rocks fake plants and give them a quick soak with water and bleach. Rinse very thoroughly and take the sniff test. If you can still smell bleach then you didn't rinse long enough.

Check your filter media to make sure it's not clogged or over due on a change.
Change out 50 percent of the water. Do not clean or vacuum your gravel or sand. There has to be something in the tank to retain the biosphere. If you are using a canister filter, do not clean the biowheels.

A lot of times when there is brown bubbly stuff on the top of the water it indicates one or more problems. Usually it is because of fresh water going into sand. Second reason, dead fish, and third, your filter is not working up to capacity.

So check all those. Also if you are using sand, make sure you are raking through it once a month. Some people stir I rake. Raking leaves less sand floating through the water and leaves a nice combed beach effect.

Unless you are seeing symptoms like sores, bloating, redness, fish itching themselves against rocks, etc etc, then it would be hard to diagnose and treat. So for now, just do the following,

check filter,
do 50 percent water change,
clean everything in tank except gravel
isolate any fish that are showing signs of illness.

You may have just gotten some sick fish like I did. Hope this works for you. If anything else, please dont hesitate to get back to me.


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Re: Fish Died. Cloudy, smelly water... [message #8870] Wed, 27 February 2008 12:07 Go to previous message
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I want to thank you for all of your help! This is all very helpfull, I've printed it out!!! I dont know much about aquariums, the reason is...when i set the tank up two years ago...i never once had a problem. I just fed them and did regular water changes. I will use all of your suggestions, and will keep you posted.

Again, thanks! This is my first day on this site...so i look forward to the site. I havent really poked around on here yet, but I will and will add some pictures of my tank, because I think I've done a wonderful job for a rookie. Razz I will look forward to anyones comments about the tank and any ideas/suggestions anyone may have.
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